hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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The stream sounds great Udo,
Very crisp and clear sound.
Kind regards,
Karina.
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 17:00, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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Hi Udo
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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Thanks Udo
Sounds promising for sure!
b g
On 21 Apr 2020, at 19:57, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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This is amazing news! On the IQAudio product page it looks like the mic-level input is only mono, but I see the complete specs in their guide: http://www.iqaudio.com/downloads/IQaudIO.pdf
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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Udo: Thanks for the additional info! It clarifies the spec sheet on that 'hat' and explains how to really use it.IMHO, leaving out such details often leads to more confusion, not less. BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details. -Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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Gregory O'Drobinak:
BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details.
hi Greg,
yes, that's a bit confusing indeed. but, they are friendly, responsive and open to requests and suggestions. They didn't even consider to add stereo mic-in to their boards back in 2017, since only a small group of afficionados is using that feature. ;) But they listened to our ideas and came up with these 2 reasonably priced boards. Then it turned out that both have a problem with levels when used with 2 mics in stereo. That's where this statement below comes from, i.e. the decision not to advertise the stereo mic-in feature unless... etc.
But from my test with both boards on a Pi3 (Zero soon) I can say that this difference in levels is matter of settings in Linux/alsamixer config and (at least for me) no problem. Install on a Pi is easy (no drivers) and they outperform the cirrus card (which I have too).
Disclamer: I'm not working for them ;) Just happy to have new options for crispy live stereo on a raspberry pi
bests, Udo
-Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
-- radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E ::: maps https://aporee.org/maps/ ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org ::: field radio https://aporee.org/fieldradio ::: miniatures for mobiles https://aporee.org/mfm/
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thanks Udo and everbody
really a great direction
I look forward to making some and hopefully we can include full support for the board in the next streambox software version.
bw grant
On 22 Apr 2020, at 07:49, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Gregory O'Drobinak:
BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details.
hi Greg,
yes, that's a bit confusing indeed. but, they are friendly, responsive and open to requests and suggestions. They didn't even consider to add stereo mic-in to their boards back in 2017, since only a small group of afficionados is using that feature. ;) But they listened to our ideas and came up with these 2 reasonably priced boards. Then it turned out that both have a problem with levels when used with 2 mics in stereo. That's where this statement below comes from, i.e. the decision not to advertise the stereo mic-in feature unless... etc.
But from my test with both boards on a Pi3 (Zero soon) I can say that this difference in levels is matter of settings in Linux/alsamixer config and (at least for me) no problem. Install on a Pi is easy (no drivers) and they outperform the cirrus card (which I have too).
Disclamer: I'm not working for them ;) Just happy to have new options for crispy live stereo on a raspberry pi
bests, Udo
-Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
-- radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E ::: maps https://aporee.org/maps/ ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org ::: field radio https://aporee.org/fieldradio ::: miniatures for mobiles https://aporee.org/mfm/
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Dear all,
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the first about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
REVEIL STREAM http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne The figure for : civil twilight 04:40 is to be taken from the 2nd of May and not Saturday 5th May? (I've taken it from 2nd May as per the set up instructions - see attached image.) But, sunrise 05:17 is taken from the 5th of May?
Would it be possible for someone to take a quick look at my stream page and make sure there are no obvious errors and that it will work, please? http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne
SOLAR POWER I'm trying to set up a solar powered streambox. It's mainly cobbled together from bits left lying around from other projects or donated so not really planned as such. These are the connections between the different items of equipment I'm using:
(24v solar panel) — (diode on +) ------—> (MPPT pcb which can take in 24v and output 12v)—diode——> (12v lead acid battery) ———diode——>(Arduino board (Atmega chip removed) using 7805 voltage reg to drop 12v to 5v) ———> (Raspberry Pi + Cirrus Audio Card)
The arduino is just a stand in - i'm waiting for some 7805 voltage regulators to arrive by post.
I tried a different set up before which worked for a couple of days but didn't have enough power to sustain the raspberry pi over a longer period. With this older configuration the battery and solar panels were matched to 12volts. The new configuration, outlined above, can provide more power but it only works for a few hours and then the Raspberry Pi requires reseting by hand. Ideally, i'd like to realise a set up whereby I can leave the device unattended for a week or more and it will continue to function. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried something similar and may be able to offer advice?
Bw Ben
Ben Freeth Microresonance http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne http://locus.creacast.com:9001/newcastle-upon-tyne_westerhope.ogg
[image: Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 00.53.13.png]
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 10:56, Grant Smith grant@soundtent.org wrote:
thanks Udo and everbody
really a great direction
I look forward to making some and hopefully we can include full support for the board in the next streambox software version.
bw grant
On 22 Apr 2020, at 07:49, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Gregory O'Drobinak:
BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details.
hi Greg,
yes, that's a bit confusing indeed. but, they are friendly, responsive and open to requests and suggestions. They didn't even consider to add stereo mic-in to their boards back in 2017, since only a small group of afficionados is using that feature. ;) But they listened to our ideas and came up with these 2 reasonably priced boards. Then it turned out that both have a problem with levels when used with 2 mics in stereo. That's where this statement below comes from, i.e. the decision not to advertise the stereo mic-in feature unless... etc.
But from my test with both boards on a Pi3 (Zero soon) I can say that this difference in levels is matter of settings in Linux/alsamixer config and (at least for me) no problem. Install on a Pi is easy (no drivers) and they outperform the cirrus card (which I have too).
Disclamer: I'm not working for them ;) Just happy to have new options for crispy live stereo on a raspberry pi
bests, Udo
-Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
-- radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E ::: maps https://aporee.org/maps/ ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org ::: field radio https://aporee.org/fieldradio ::: miniatures for mobiles https://aporee.org/mfm/
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Hei Ben -- it's around 0500 your time -- the levels seem low, although the birds don't seem to be so far away, I've got to crank my volume to hear. (Seems to be a *very* clear/clean signal, though, as well!)
CHeers John
On 22/Apr/20 19:54, Ben Freeth wrote:
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the first about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
Hi Ben,
I was planning to run a streambox from a solar panel and a big leisure battery using a simple solar charge controller (about £10 on ebay) we find this keeps the battery well charged 24/7, and then a boost/buck converter (about £5) to drop the voltage safely and efficiently. I've blown a few arduino boards by connecting 12V as it's at the limit of what the onboard thingy can do, it'd be good to see if it works fine without the processor onboard!
Sarah
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 04:52, John Hopkins jhopkins@neoscenes.net wrote:
Hei Ben -- it's around 0500 your time -- the levels seem low, although the birds don't seem to be so far away, I've got to crank my volume to hear. (Seems to be a *very* clear/clean signal, though, as well!)
CHeers John
On 22/Apr/20 19:54, Ben Freeth wrote:
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the
first
about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
-- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD hanging on to the Laramide Orogeny http://tech-no-mad.net/blog/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ Locustream / Locus Sonus Streaming Project http://locusonus.org/ To unsubscribe, send a message to locustream-request@nujus.net with unsubscribe in the subject or the message http://nujus.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/locustream _______________________________________________
Hi Sarah and John (thanks for getting back to me),
John: I'll see if I can increase the levels - thanks for the feedback.
Sarah: If possible could you send me links to products you have already bought so I can take a look at them? Which specific leisure battery, solar charger, buck vconverter did you buy? I used buck converters on a previous project and had an issue with them - if the battery depleted their output changed (decreased) - maybe this was specific to the buck converters I had? I'd be interested in your experience with them? In a similar vein, I tried using resistors configured as a voltage divider to drop 12v to 5v and this has a similar effect - if the battery depletes the output drops. Ideally i'd like something that always outputs 5volts and maybe tracks the battery level in some way to achieve this. Maybe the setup needs further capacitors to smooth out any voltage spikes from the panel via the MPPT pcb? Have you added anything like that to your design? To answer your question - the Arduino does work at 12v but becomes very hot - (I removed the Atmel chip so it didn't get fried), i'm wondering if this could be the issue and causing the Pi to flake out every so often - maybe the 7805 voltage regulator on the Arduino is being overwhelmed, it might need a more substantial heat sink?
Bw, Ben
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 08:25, Sarah Dal dalrymple.sarah@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ben,
I was planning to run a streambox from a solar panel and a big leisure battery using a simple solar charge controller (about £10 on ebay) we find this keeps the battery well charged 24/7, and then a boost/buck converter (about £5) to drop the voltage safely and efficiently. I've blown a few arduino boards by connecting 12V as it's at the limit of what the onboard thingy can do, it'd be good to see if it works fine without the processor onboard!
Sarah
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 04:52, John Hopkins jhopkins@neoscenes.net wrote:
Hei Ben -- it's around 0500 your time -- the levels seem low, although the birds don't seem to be so far away, I've got to crank my volume to hear. (Seems to be a *very* clear/clean signal, though, as well!)
CHeers John
On 22/Apr/20 19:54, Ben Freeth wrote:
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the
first
about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
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Hi Ben,
Thanks for setting up the stream and entering a profile, good to have an open mic in Newcastle. Reveil starts in London at 5:00 GMT on the 2nd May and travels west, so your stream will be picked up on the morning of Sunday 3rd May around 4:40 GMT. I'll change the day for you on soundtent.org. http://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll=54.973280,-1.613960%C2%A2er=54.9733,-1.614... Thanks for checking in.
All the best,
Dawn
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 03:06, Ben Freeth microresonance@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the first about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
REVEIL STREAM http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne The figure for : civil twilight 04:40 is to be taken from the 2nd of May and not Saturday 5th May? (I've taken it from 2nd May as per the set up instructions - see attached image.) But, sunrise 05:17 is taken from the 5th of May?
Would it be possible for someone to take a quick look at my stream page and make sure there are no obvious errors and that it will work, please? http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne
SOLAR POWER I'm trying to set up a solar powered streambox. It's mainly cobbled together from bits left lying around from other projects or donated so not really planned as such. These are the connections between the different items of equipment I'm using:
(24v solar panel) — (diode on +) ------—> (MPPT pcb which can take in 24v and output 12v)—diode——> (12v lead acid battery) ———diode——>(Arduino board (Atmega chip removed) using 7805 voltage reg to drop 12v to 5v) ———> (Raspberry Pi + Cirrus Audio Card)
The arduino is just a stand in - i'm waiting for some 7805 voltage regulators to arrive by post.
I tried a different set up before which worked for a couple of days but didn't have enough power to sustain the raspberry pi over a longer period. With this older configuration the battery and solar panels were matched to 12volts. The new configuration, outlined above, can provide more power but it only works for a few hours and then the Raspberry Pi requires reseting by hand. Ideally, i'd like to realise a set up whereby I can leave the device unattended for a week or more and it will continue to function. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried something similar and may be able to offer advice?
Bw Ben
Ben Freeth Microresonance http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne http://locus.creacast.com:9001/newcastle-upon-tyne_westerhope.ogg
[image: Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 00.53.13.png]
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 10:56, Grant Smith grant@soundtent.org wrote:
thanks Udo and everbody
really a great direction
I look forward to making some and hopefully we can include full support for the board in the next streambox software version.
bw grant
On 22 Apr 2020, at 07:49, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Gregory O'Drobinak:
BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details.
hi Greg,
yes, that's a bit confusing indeed. but, they are friendly, responsive and open to requests and suggestions. They didn't even consider to add stereo mic-in to their boards back in 2017, since only a small group of afficionados is using that feature. ;) But they listened to our ideas and came up with these 2 reasonably priced boards. Then it turned out that both have a problem with levels when used with 2 mics in stereo. That's where this statement below comes from, i.e. the decision not to advertise the stereo mic-in feature unless... etc.
But from my test with both boards on a Pi3 (Zero soon) I can say that this difference in levels is matter of settings in Linux/alsamixer config and (at least for me) no problem. Install on a Pi is easy (no drivers) and they outperform the cirrus card (which I have too).
Disclamer: I'm not working for them ;) Just happy to have new options for crispy live stereo on a raspberry pi
bests, Udo
-Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
-- radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E ::: maps https://aporee.org/maps/ ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org ::: field radio https://aporee.org/fieldradio ::: miniatures for mobiles https://aporee.org/mfm/
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Thanks for making the adjustment Dawn. Bw, Ben
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 09:47, Dawn Scarfe dawn.scarfe@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ben,
Thanks for setting up the stream and entering a profile, good to have an open mic in Newcastle. Reveil starts in London at 5:00 GMT on the 2nd May and travels west, so your stream will be picked up on the morning of Sunday 3rd May around 4:40 GMT. I'll change the day for you on soundtent.org.
http://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll=54.973280,-1.613960%C2%A2er=54.9733,-1.614... Thanks for checking in.
All the best,
Dawn
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 03:06, Ben Freeth microresonance@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the first about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
REVEIL STREAM http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne The figure for : civil twilight 04:40 is to be taken from the 2nd of May and not Saturday 5th May? (I've taken it from 2nd May as per the set up instructions - see attached image.) But, sunrise 05:17 is taken from the 5th of May?
Would it be possible for someone to take a quick look at my stream page and make sure there are no obvious errors and that it will work, please? http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne
SOLAR POWER I'm trying to set up a solar powered streambox. It's mainly cobbled together from bits left lying around from other projects or donated so not really planned as such. These are the connections between the different items of equipment I'm using:
(24v solar panel) — (diode on +) ------—> (MPPT pcb which can take in 24v and output 12v)—diode——> (12v lead acid battery) ———diode——>(Arduino board (Atmega chip removed) using 7805 voltage reg to drop 12v to 5v) ———> (Raspberry Pi + Cirrus Audio Card)
The arduino is just a stand in - i'm waiting for some 7805 voltage regulators to arrive by post.
I tried a different set up before which worked for a couple of days but didn't have enough power to sustain the raspberry pi over a longer period. With this older configuration the battery and solar panels were matched to 12volts. The new configuration, outlined above, can provide more power but it only works for a few hours and then the Raspberry Pi requires reseting by hand. Ideally, i'd like to realise a set up whereby I can leave the device unattended for a week or more and it will continue to function. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried something similar and may be able to offer advice?
Bw Ben
Ben Freeth Microresonance http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne http://locus.creacast.com:9001/newcastle-upon-tyne_westerhope.ogg
[image: Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 00.53.13.png]
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 10:56, Grant Smith grant@soundtent.org wrote:
thanks Udo and everbody
really a great direction
I look forward to making some and hopefully we can include full support for the board in the next streambox software version.
bw grant
On 22 Apr 2020, at 07:49, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Gregory O'Drobinak:
BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details.
hi Greg,
yes, that's a bit confusing indeed. but, they are friendly, responsive and open to requests and suggestions. They didn't even consider to add stereo mic-in to their boards back in 2017, since only a small group of afficionados is using that feature. ;) But they listened to our ideas and came up with these 2 reasonably priced boards. Then it turned out that both have a problem with levels when used with 2 mics in stereo. That's where this statement below comes from, i.e. the decision not to advertise the stereo mic-in feature unless... etc.
But from my test with both boards on a Pi3 (Zero soon) I can say that this difference in levels is matter of settings in Linux/alsamixer config and (at least for me) no problem. Install on a Pi is easy (no drivers) and they outperform the cirrus card (which I have too).
Disclamer: I'm not working for them ;) Just happy to have new options for crispy live stereo on a raspberry pi
bests, Udo
-Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
-- radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E ::: maps https://aporee.org/maps/ ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org ::: field radio https://aporee.org/fieldradio ::: miniatures for mobiles https://aporee.org/mfm/
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Hi Dawn, I've adjusted the following on my Reveil 2020 Stream page to match the new setting (Sunday 3rd May): civil twilight 04:40 sunrise 05:17 Thanks, Ben http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 09:54, Ben Freeth microresonance@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for making the adjustment Dawn. Bw, Ben
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 09:47, Dawn Scarfe dawn.scarfe@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ben,
Thanks for setting up the stream and entering a profile, good to have an open mic in Newcastle. Reveil starts in London at 5:00 GMT on the 2nd May and travels west, so your stream will be picked up on the morning of Sunday 3rd May around 4:40 GMT. I'll change the day for you on soundtent.org.
http://app.photoephemeris.com/?ll=54.973280,-1.613960%C2%A2er=54.9733,-1.614... Thanks for checking in.
All the best,
Dawn
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 03:06, Ben Freeth microresonance@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the first about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
REVEIL STREAM http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne The figure for : civil twilight 04:40 is to be taken from the 2nd of May and not Saturday 5th May? (I've taken it from 2nd May as per the set up instructions - see attached image.) But, sunrise 05:17 is taken from the 5th of May?
Would it be possible for someone to take a quick look at my stream page and make sure there are no obvious errors and that it will work, please? http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne
SOLAR POWER I'm trying to set up a solar powered streambox. It's mainly cobbled together from bits left lying around from other projects or donated so not really planned as such. These are the connections between the different items of equipment I'm using:
(24v solar panel) — (diode on +) ------—> (MPPT pcb which can take in 24v and output 12v)—diode——> (12v lead acid battery) ———diode——>(Arduino board (Atmega chip removed) using 7805 voltage reg to drop 12v to 5v) ———> (Raspberry Pi + Cirrus Audio Card)
The arduino is just a stand in - i'm waiting for some 7805 voltage regulators to arrive by post.
I tried a different set up before which worked for a couple of days but didn't have enough power to sustain the raspberry pi over a longer period. With this older configuration the battery and solar panels were matched to 12volts. The new configuration, outlined above, can provide more power but it only works for a few hours and then the Raspberry Pi requires reseting by hand. Ideally, i'd like to realise a set up whereby I can leave the device unattended for a week or more and it will continue to function. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried something similar and may be able to offer advice?
Bw Ben
Ben Freeth Microresonance http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne http://locus.creacast.com:9001/newcastle-upon-tyne_westerhope.ogg
[image: Screen Shot 2020-04-23 at 00.53.13.png]
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 10:56, Grant Smith grant@soundtent.org wrote:
thanks Udo and everbody
really a great direction
I look forward to making some and hopefully we can include full support for the board in the next streambox software version.
bw grant
On 22 Apr 2020, at 07:49, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Gregory O'Drobinak:
BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details.
hi Greg,
yes, that's a bit confusing indeed. but, they are friendly, responsive and open to requests and suggestions. They didn't even consider to add stereo mic-in to their boards back in 2017, since only a small group of afficionados is using that feature. ;) But they listened to our ideas and came up with these 2 reasonably priced boards. Then it turned out that both have a problem with levels when used with 2 mics in stereo. That's where this statement below comes from, i.e. the decision not to advertise the stereo mic-in feature unless... etc.
But from my test with both boards on a Pi3 (Zero soon) I can say that this difference in levels is matter of settings in Linux/alsamixer config and (at least for me) no problem. Install on a Pi is easy (no drivers) and they outperform the cirrus card (which I have too).
Disclamer: I'm not working for them ;) Just happy to have new options for crispy live stereo on a raspberry pi
bests, Udo
-Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
-- radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E ::: maps https://aporee.org/maps/ ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org ::: field radio https://aporee.org/fieldradio ::: miniatures for mobiles https://aporee.org/mfm/
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Hi Ben - Try the converter Rickard linked to, I've not noticed a voltage drop when powering an arduino. Would an adjustable buck.boost keep outputting at the correct voltage if the inpout voltage drops? (eg one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400W-DC-DC-Step-Up-Boost-Buck-Voltage-Converter-P... )
The solar charge controller I use is this model or something similar. Currently we have it controlling the power to an electric fence and is working nicely! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/30A-20A-10A-Solar-Charge-Controller-Regulator-PWM...
The leisure battery are along these lines - https://advancedbatterysupplies.co.uk/product-category/leisure-batteries/boa... - basically similar to a small car battery, but deisgned to discharge continuously rather than being used just for starting a motor
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 10:24, Richard richard@aspectsofavalon.co.uk wrote:
Ben,
For the biggest win get rid of the deadweight of the Arduino board and that 7805. The 7805 is a linear regulator which will drop 7V to give you 5V, over half your power will be wasted in heating it up.
The chinese make 12V to 5V switchmode gizmos by the zillion eg
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CPT-DC-DC-Converter-Regulator-12V-To-5V-3A-15W-Ca...
Give the Arduino board and 7805 the boot and use one of those instead
Measure the current going into your battery from the solar panel in the sun. Measure the current from your battery to the Arduino. If the charge current in sun isn't at least three times the load you are going to lose the fight because the sun only shines usefully for a third of the day at the moment.
I have run a Pi from a solarpanel in the past. You need a surprisingly large solar panel and a 80Ah leisure battery because the UK has long runs of overcast and rainy days where the panel doesn't make up for the consumption... Richard
On 23/04/2020 02:54, Ben Freeth wrote:
Dear all,
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the first about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
REVEIL STREAM http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne The figure for : civil twilight 04:40 is to be taken from the 2nd of May and not Saturday 5th May? (I've taken it from 2nd May as per the set up instructions - see attached image.) But, sunrise 05:17 is taken from the 5th of May?
Would it be possible for someone to take a quick look at my stream page and make sure there are no obvious errors and that it will work, please? http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne
SOLAR POWER I'm trying to set up a solar powered streambox. It's mainly cobbled together from bits left lying around from other projects or donated so not really planned as such. These are the connections between the different items of equipment I'm using:
(24v solar panel) — (diode on +) ------—> (MPPT pcb which can take in 24v and output 12v)—diode——> (12v lead acid battery) ———diode——>(Arduino board (Atmega chip removed) using 7805 voltage reg to drop 12v to 5v) ———> (Raspberry Pi + Cirrus Audio Card)
The arduino is just a stand in - i'm waiting for some 7805 voltage regulators to arrive by post.
I tried a different set up before which worked for a couple of days but didn't have enough power to sustain the raspberry pi over a longer period. With this older configuration the battery and solar panels were matched to 12volts. The new configuration, outlined above, can provide more power but it only works for a few hours and then the Raspberry Pi requires reseting by hand. Ideally, i'd like to realise a set up whereby I can leave the device unattended for a week or more and it will continue to function. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried something similar and may be able to offer advice?
Bw Ben
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 10:56, Grant Smith grant@soundtent.org wrote:
thanks Udo and everbody
really a great direction
I look forward to making some and hopefully we can include full support for the board in the next streambox software version.
bw grant
On 22 Apr 2020, at 07:49, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Gregory O'Drobinak:
BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details.
hi Greg,
yes, that's a bit confusing indeed. but, they are friendly, responsive and open to requests and suggestions. They didn't even consider to add stereo mic-in to their boards back in 2017, since only a small group of afficionados is using that feature. ;) But they listened to our ideas and came up with these 2 reasonably priced boards. Then it turned out that both have a problem with levels when used with 2 mics in stereo. That's where this statement below comes from, i.e. the decision not to advertise the stereo mic-in feature unless... etc.
But from my test with both boards on a Pi3 (Zero soon) I can say that this difference in levels is matter of settings in Linux/alsamixer config and (at least for me) no problem. Install on a Pi is easy (no drivers) and they outperform the cirrus card (which I have too).
Disclamer: I'm not working for them ;) Just happy to have new options for crispy live stereo on a raspberry pi
bests, Udo
-Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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Hi Sarah -
Would an adjustable buck.boost keep outputting at the correct voltage if the inpout voltage drops? (eg one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400W-DC-DC-Step-Up-Boost-Buck-Voltage-Converter-P...)
It would, but beware. Discharging a lead-acid battery below about 11.5V is the quickest way to permanently damage the battery. You can only really draw about 50% of the capacity of a lead-acid battery before you run the risk of permanent damage.
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/lead_based_batteries
There are solutions designed for running Pis off solar, which let you shut down the Pi in a controlled matter if the power is short
https://uk.pi-supply.com/products/pijuice-standard
But you'd struggle to bridge several days of overcast skies with the battery there. OTOH the birds are more interesting in the morning and evening, so a scheduled power up/down system could work well for locusonus
Trying to run a pi 24/7 from solar systems made from secondhand junk sounds attractive, but doesn't usually end well. You can at least avoid wrecking the battery using a low-voltage disconnect, eg
http://www.reuk.co.uk/wordpress/category/low-voltage-disconnects/
Richard
Hi Ben
I have a solar stream setup and documented the solar setup here - it ran for about a year without problem then my audio board got wet and dies so I am setting up a new board at the moment
http://www.activatedspace.com/BlogPosts/?post_id=33&title=solar-powered-... http://www.activatedspace.com/BlogPosts/?post_id=33&title=solar-powered-audio-stream
Hope that helps - was very easy to setup and survived the monsoon
Cheers, Garth
On Apr 22, 2020, at 18:54, Ben Freeth microresonance@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
I've just set up a Reveil 2020 stream and have a few questions - the first about setting up a functional Reveil stream and the second around Solar Power for creating an 'independent from mains power' streaming device:
REVEIL STREAM http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne The figure for : civil twilight 04:40 is to be taken from the 2nd of May and not Saturday 5th May? (I've taken it from 2nd May as per the set up instructions - see attached image.) But, sunrise 05:17 is taken from the 5th of May?
Would it be possible for someone to take a quick look at my stream page and make sure there are no obvious errors and that it will work, please? http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne http://streams.soundtent.org/2020/streams/utc0_newcastle-upon-tyne
SOLAR POWER I'm trying to set up a solar powered streambox. It's mainly cobbled together from bits left lying around from other projects or donated so not really planned as such. These are the connections between the different items of equipment I'm using: (24v solar panel) — (diode on +) ------—> (MPPT pcb which can take in 24v and output 12v)—diode——> (12v lead acid battery) ———diode——>(Arduino board (Atmega chip removed) using 7805 voltage reg to drop 12v to 5v) ———> (Raspberry Pi + Cirrus Audio Card)
The arduino is just a stand in - i'm waiting for some 7805 voltage regulators to arrive by post.
I tried a different set up before which worked for a couple of days but didn't have enough power to sustain the raspberry pi over a longer period. With this older configuration the battery and solar panels were matched to 12volts. The new configuration, outlined above, can provide more power but it only works for a few hours and then the Raspberry Pi requires reseting by hand. Ideally, i'd like to realise a set up whereby I can leave the device unattended for a week or more and it will continue to function. I'm wondering if anyone else has tried something similar and may be able to offer advice?
Bw Ben
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 10:56, Grant Smith <grant@soundtent.org mailto:grant@soundtent.org> wrote: thanks Udo and everbody
really a great direction
I look forward to making some and hopefully we can include full support for the board in the next streambox software version.
bw grant
On 22 Apr 2020, at 07:49, udo noll <un@aporee.org mailto:un@aporee.org> wrote:
Gregory O'Drobinak:
BTW, I find it disturbing that a company would not understand how their own product design worked and also leave out pertinent details.
hi Greg,
yes, that's a bit confusing indeed. but, they are friendly, responsive and open to requests and suggestions. They didn't even consider to add stereo mic-in to their boards back in 2017, since only a small group of afficionados is using that feature. ;) But they listened to our ideas and came up with these 2 reasonably priced boards. Then it turned out that both have a problem with levels when used with 2 mics in stereo. That's where this statement below comes from, i.e. the decision not to advertise the stereo mic-in feature unless... etc.
But from my test with both boards on a Pi3 (Zero soon) I can say that this difference in levels is matter of settings in Linux/alsamixer config and (at least for me) no problem. Install on a Pi is easy (no drivers) and they outperform the cirrus card (which I have too).
Disclamer: I'm not working for them ;) Just happy to have new options for crispy live stereo on a raspberry pi
bests, Udo
-Greg O. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 03:22:21 PM CDT, udo noll <un@aporee.org mailto:un@aporee.org> wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll <un@aporee.org mailto:un@aporee.org> wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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Thanks so much Udo, I look forward to hearing your PiZero experiment
On Apr 21, 2020, at 13:21, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
Zach Poff:
Just to be clear, how did you connect the EM172 pair?
it's a bit confusing. the codec+ board http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/100-pi-codec.html has only one 3.5mm jack, but mine has two. got it 6 month ago from IQAudio for testing. I asked them today, and they said, that most people don't need two mics, but in case they would provide another jack on demand".
So then you would have 2 mono mic inputs, means either a Y-cable or each Primo in its own jack.
the codecZero board has one 3.5mm jack, which they say is mono, but actually is stereo. I asked, the answer was:
"I’ve not reached the end of investigation into the different volume on each channel. So we market it as mono. :-) "
And in fact, I was a bit to quick, you have to set different values in alsamixer for balanced levels on both cards.
so, what you can hear at http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u is a pi3 + codecZero, 2 Primos connected to one stereo 3.5mm jack. both channels 18dB gain, but slightly different settings in alsamixer. don't want to spam the list with amixer output...
hope I'm not contributing to the confusion ;)
bests, udo
I see that Mic2 is a mono 3.5mm jack that disables the onboard MEMS, but where is the input for Mic1?
The guide says "Supports additional (no fit) Mono Electret microphone (Mic1 right)" (p28)
-Zach
On 2020-04-21 14:57, udo noll wrote:
hi Garth:
Thanks for posting this - I have had a Pi3B running with the Cirius board for several years (maybe 4 or 5 now), but I am moving it into a solar charged enclosure so I can move it away from the power source and make it more autonomous. I have used Pi Zeros for other installation applications but was not thinking about it in this application - however due to the reduced power consumption it would make sense for me to change me entire setup to a PiZero with the IOAudio board and so I am wondering if you have any details on how you got the PiZero working for Locusonus stream
as said, I don't have Pi zero experience yet. What you've listend to is a Pi3 + the IQAUdio Zero board: http://iqaudio.co.uk/hats/101-pi-codeczero.html
this board is for the pi zero, but obviously works nicely with a Pi3 I don't have a Pi Zero yet, but will so soon, then I can test how this performs.
great news is that there is an audio board with stereo mic-in /w PIP, working with a Pi3, Pi4 and hopefully Pi Zero.
Setup on the actual Pi3 is simple, the board is recognized by the kernel (Raspbian GNU/Linux 10, Linux raspi3 4.19.97-v7+) without any driver install needed.
the card is visible by the alsa: pi@raspi3:~ $ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: IQaudIOCODEC [IQaudIOCODEC], device 0: IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0 [IQaudIO CODEC HiFi v1.2 da7213-hifi-0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
So in a darkice config you can use it like: ... device = hw:IQaudIOCODEC sampleRate = 44100 bitsPerSample = 16 channel = 2 ...
as soon as I have a pi zero I'll try the board and will report. bests, Udo
Thanks in advance
Garth
ps. The stream seems quite low gain here in the USA
On Apr 21, 2020, at 08:56, udo noll un@aporee.org wrote:
hi Grant & all locustreamers,
maybe I missed that info, but the IOAudio website says about the pi-codecZero board (for the raspberry pi zero) that it is mono and doesn't work with a pi3 etc., and didn't he mention that it doesn't have PIP / bias voltage available?
anyway, it obviously works great with a stereo pair of Primo EM172. that means this board together with pi zero would be perfectly small, stereo and has low energy consumption. I'give it a try with a pi zero soon.
I'm just listening now, it's quite low noise, better sounding than the cirrus board. quite cool. check our my backyard within the next hour: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/live.m3u
bests, Udo
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