Hello all
Following discussions with Jerome, Peter, Gregoire et al at locus sonus, can I draw your attention to this initiative for a 24 hour daybreak broadcast to run from around dawn London time on SAT 3 to SUN 4 MAY 2014.
REVEIL will sample from live streams moving West as the sun rises in a continuous loop lasting one earth day. It will be available as a live broadcast, an installation and online.
We hope locus sonus will be the core of the project and REVEIL will be a chance to strengthen the network.
At the moment the open mic network is quite sparse and fragile: few mics are open of all the ones on the map. I sometimes have trouble keeping my own mic at camberwell open, so I'm familiar with some of the issues.
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
Secondly: maybe we could have a discussion about what people would need to get their streams up and running both towards the event but more generally on a permanent basis
Then we could look at what kinds of support I / we can provide around that
Any thoughts welcome
Thanks
bw grant
grant smith
self-noise.net
Hi:
I have been on this list for about three years, but have yet to actually get a stream on the map working. I have been running a personal stream in AACPlus stereo for about 3.5 years on and off, using an old HP E-Vectra running Windows XP, using a pair of Behringer XM8500 dynamic microphones and a Yamaha MG102C with some compression in-line, which seems to work great. If I could use something like a raspberry pi to get audio from another output on the board, I'm all for that. I am an audio guy first, and am not so knowledgeable when it comes to implementing this kind of thing properly, but I'd be all about getting something running here, as I already have the infrastructure in place to at least make sure my audio is clean.
Just in case anyone is curious what my current setup sounds like, here's a link to my stream as it stands. Note that I am using cardioid dynamic microphones, which really shouldn't be used for this kind of thing, but they are robust, and have withstood the elements quite well. http://borris.me/outside.m3u
On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:49 AM, grant grant_smith@mac.com wrote:
Hello all
Following discussions with Jerome, Peter, Gregoire et al at locus sonus, can I draw your attention to this initiative for a 24 hour daybreak broadcast to run from around dawn London time on SAT 3 to SUN 4 MAY 2014.
REVEIL will sample from live streams moving West as the sun rises in a continuous loop lasting one earth day. It will be available as a live broadcast, an installation and online.
We hope locus sonus will be the core of the project and REVEIL will be a chance to strengthen the network.
At the moment the open mic network is quite sparse and fragile: few mics are open of all the ones on the map. I sometimes have trouble keeping my own mic at camberwell open, so I'm familiar with some of the issues.
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
Secondly: maybe we could have a discussion about what people would need to get their streams up and running both towards the event but more generally on a permanent basis
Then we could look at what kinds of support I / we can provide around that
Any thoughts welcome
Thanks
bw grant
grant smith
self-noise.net
https://soundcloud.com/selfnoise
http://locusonus.org/soundmap/034/
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Hi Patrick
This sounds great - thanks - a nice mix of birdsong, occasional traffic, a little wind and some constant sound that may be an air conditioning unit?
In this situation, where there is a stable and very nice stream already, I would have thought an approach would be to mirror it to the locus sonus site.
Does somebody know if that's feasible?
bw grant
On 16 Jul 2013, at 14:28, Patrick Perdue wrote:
Hi:
I have been on this list for about three years, but have yet to actually get a stream on the map working. I have been running a personal stream in AACPlus stereo for about 3.5 years on and off, using an old HP E-Vectra running Windows XP, using a pair of Behringer XM8500 dynamic microphones and a Yamaha MG102C with some compression in-line, which seems to work great. If I could use something like a raspberry pi to get audio from another output on the board, I'm all for that. I am an audio guy first, and am not so knowledgeable when it comes to implementing this kind of thing properly, but I'd be all about getting something running here, as I already have the infrastructure in place to at least make sure my audio is clean.
Just in case anyone is curious what my current setup sounds like, here's a link to my stream as it stands. Note that I am using cardioid dynamic microphones, which really shouldn't be used for this kind of thing, but they are robust, and have withstood the elements quite well. http://borris.me/outside.m3u
On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:49 AM, grant grant_smith@mac.com wrote:
Hello all
Following discussions with Jerome, Peter, Gregoire et al at locus sonus, can I draw your attention to this initiative for a 24 hour daybreak broadcast to run from around dawn London time on SAT 3 to SUN 4 MAY 2014.
REVEIL will sample from live streams moving West as the sun rises in a continuous loop lasting one earth day. It will be available as a live broadcast, an installation and online.
We hope locus sonus will be the core of the project and REVEIL will be a chance to strengthen the network.
At the moment the open mic network is quite sparse and fragile: few mics are open of all the ones on the map. I sometimes have trouble keeping my own mic at camberwell open, so I'm familiar with some of the issues.
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
Secondly: maybe we could have a discussion about what people would need to get their streams up and running both towards the event but more generally on a permanent basis
Then we could look at what kinds of support I / we can provide around that
Any thoughts welcome
Thanks
bw grant
grant smith
self-noise.net
https://soundcloud.com/selfnoise
http://locusonus.org/soundmap/034/
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grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
-- radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E ::: maps http://aporee.org/maps/ ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org ::: miniatures for mobiles http://aporee.org/mfm/
Isn't there a way to make USB audio input work on Android devices running 4.1 (or is it 4.2) and higher? The Rode IXY is pretty nice, but I prefer my Tascam IXJ2 and an Audio Technica AT-822 with iPhone for portable streaming applications. I use an app called KoalaSan on iOS for remote streaming. It supports Ogg Vorbis, Opus and AAC. Opus requires IceCast 2.4.
The stereo image is wider on the AT-822 than the IXY. I don't think any of the current Audio Technica microphones have such a nice image as the AT-822, although some are technically superior in terms of SNR and sensitivity. A real shame.
On 7/18/2013 4:13 AM, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
-- radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E ::: maps http://aporee.org/maps/ ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org ::: miniatures for mobiles http://aporee.org/mfm/ _______________________________________________ Locustream / Locus Sonus Streaming Project http://locusonus.org/ To unsubscribe, send a message to support@locusonus.org http://nujus.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/locustream _______________________________________________
Patrick Perdue:
Isn't there a way to make USB audio input work on Android devices running 4.1 (or is it 4.2) and higher?
yes, host mode is told to work on 4.1. or so, usb audio out too, but havn't found success reports on sound cards, or recorders acting as such (olympus, zoom, etc.) a nice streaming software for androids is "broadcastmyself"... it optionally mixes mic-in with a playlist
udo
but I prefer my Tascam IXJ2 and an Audio Technica AT-822 with iPhone for portable streaming applications. I use an app called KoalaSan on iOS for remote streaming. It supports Ogg Vorbis, Opus and AAC. Opus requires IceCast 2.4.
The stereo image is wider on the AT-822 than the IXY. I don't think any of the current Audio Technica microphones have such a nice image as the AT-822, although some are technically superior in terms of SNR and sensitivity. A real shame.
On 7/18/2013 4:13 AM, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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De : Dustin Perdue patrick@pdaudio.net Date : 18 juillet 2013 16:40:58 HAEC À : locustream@locusonus.org Objet : Rép : [locustream] REVEIL on the locus network
You can do something similar with KoalaSAN and AudioBus, optionally mixing in the audio source of anything that supports AudioBus. I use BossJock Studio as a front-end processor for live input for compression/limiting from my Tascam IXJ2 before it hits the stream. Also, I have never tried using something like the Zoom H1 with an iPad/camera connection kit, but I can tell you that any of the Olympus recorders I have (LS100, LS14, DM520) won't work. Same for the Zoom H4N I had for a short time. I wasn't impressed at all with it's preamps compared to the original H4. And, of course you can't use any of these devices directly from an iPhone due to Apple's power restrictions, at least without jailbreaking. I even tried a Blue Tiki, which has some processing in-line with two mic capsules (mono, used for noise reduction,) and even that went over the 20MA power range.
I don't have any Android devices at all.
Le 18 juil. 13 à 13:04, udo noll a écrit :
Patrick Perdue:
Isn't there a way to make USB audio input work on Android devices running 4.1 (or is it 4.2) and higher?
yes, host mode is told to work on 4.1. or so, usb audio out too, but havn't found success reports on sound cards, or recorders acting as such (olympus, zoom, etc.) a nice streaming software for androids is "broadcastmyself"... it optionally mixes mic-in with a playlist
udo
but I prefer my Tascam IXJ2 and an Audio Technica AT-822 with iPhone for portable streaming applications. I use an app called KoalaSan on iOS for remote streaming. It supports Ogg Vorbis, Opus and AAC. Opus requires IceCast 2.4.
The stereo image is wider on the AT-822 than the IXY. I don't think any of the current Audio Technica microphones have such a nice image as the AT-822, although some are technically superior in terms of SNR and sensitivity. A real shame.
On 7/18/2013 4:13 AM, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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Hello all
This seems like a really interesting and significant discussion, both in terms of the REVEIL project for a 24 hour daybreak broadcast scheduled for next May, and more generally for the directions of live audio feeds..
Compared to when Ragnar Olafsson did the daybreak forever installation a couple of years ago, there seems to be a proliferation of approaches and devices to supplying live audio streams.
I am in the process of collating recipes on this, so is great to hear about these below, and any others out there..
Of course some mobile streams are ephemeral and some permanent streams are dispersed: like Patrick Perdue's stream which I at least wasn't aware of.
For iphone, it seems the iphone 3GS is the first model to support the koalaSan and audiobus approach; so in not too long there will perhaps be many such machines around which could potientially be re-purposed for live streaming, in a twist on the audio ecology monitoring project announced recently on ars technica http://arbimon.com/arbimon/index.php/home-acoustics
This might have advantages over the pi kits which Gregoire is using http://locusonus.org/w/?page=Proj+Lauvin but also maybe not.
In general there are probably lots of possible approaches for different situations.
A key aim emerging for REVEIL is to encourage participants in the direction of a more permanent installation, via the locus sonus network, so we are building something more than a one-off event.
If it is the case that there is now a proliferation of live audio feeds, maybe we should also be working on a place to present these diverse live materials - a paradoxical live archive? arklive? - where they can gain from association with others.. similar to the way small sites of high biodiversity can benefit from being mapped together with other such sites.. as at aporee for recorded sound
thanks
bw grant
On 18 Jul 2013, at 16:44, Jerome Joy wrote:
De : Dustin Perdue patrick@pdaudio.net Date : 18 juillet 2013 16:40:58 HAEC À : locustream@locusonus.org Objet : Rép : [locustream] REVEIL on the locus network
You can do something similar with KoalaSAN and AudioBus, optionally mixing in the audio source of anything that supports AudioBus. I use BossJock Studio as a front-end processor for live input for compression/limiting from my Tascam IXJ2 before it hits the stream. Also, I have never tried using something like the Zoom H1 with an iPad/camera connection kit, but I can tell you that any of the Olympus recorders I have (LS100, LS14, DM520) won't work. Same for the Zoom H4N I had for a short time. I wasn't impressed at all with it's preamps compared to the original H4. And, of course you can't use any of these devices directly from an iPhone due to Apple's power restrictions, at least without jailbreaking. I even tried a Blue Tiki, which has some processing in-line with two mic capsules (mono, used for noise reduction,) and even that went over the 20MA power range.
I don't have any Android devices at all.
Le 18 juil. 13 à 13:04, udo noll a écrit :
Patrick Perdue:
Isn't there a way to make USB audio input work on Android devices running 4.1 (or is it 4.2) and higher?
yes, host mode is told to work on 4.1. or so, usb audio out too, but havn't found success reports on sound cards, or recorders acting as such (olympus, zoom, etc.) a nice streaming software for androids is "broadcastmyself"... it optionally mixes mic-in with a playlist
udo
but I prefer my Tascam IXJ2 and an Audio Technica AT-822 with iPhone for portable streaming applications. I use an app called KoalaSan on iOS for remote streaming. It supports Ogg Vorbis, Opus and AAC. Opus requires IceCast 2.4.
The stereo image is wider on the AT-822 than the IXY. I don't think any of the current Audio Technica microphones have such a nice image as the AT-822, although some are technically superior in terms of SNR and sensitivity. A real shame.
On 7/18/2013 4:13 AM, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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The problem with KoalaSAN in this context is that there is no option for reconnecting the stream after the connection has been dropped for any reason. However, the dev seems to be receptive to ideas, so perhaps that can change in future versions.
I haven't actually tried streaming with a 3GS, though I did try with an iPhone 4, which worked OK so long as you didn't try doing much else. I have a couple of iPhone 3gs's here. Perhaps I will dig them out of whatever corners I've stuffed them in, and see how streaming performance is with all supported codecs. I expect AAC encoding will work best, especially on that hardware, as KoalaSAN is actually using Apple's encoding process. There are still some analog 30-pin audio input devices around for older apple devices, I.E. the 3gs, although I don't have access to any, that will allow for unprocessed stereo audio, though, unlike the iPhone 4 and up, which supports a USB audio profile, you are still subject to the phone's A/D conversion. In this instance, you should be very careful about noise from GSM/3g connections if you want to experiment with such things.
By the way, I agree with all points regarding networking. I had been running my own stream for quite a while before I found this project. Speaking of which, it was down over the weekend due to a power supply failure, and it's back up now.
On 7/20/2013 6:52 AM, grant wrote:
Hello all
This seems like a really interesting and significant discussion, both in terms of the REVEIL project for a 24 hour daybreak broadcast scheduled for next May, and more generally for the directions of live audio feeds..
Compared to when Ragnar Olafsson did the daybreak forever installation a couple of years ago, there seems to be a proliferation of approaches and devices to supplying live audio streams.
I am in the process of collating recipes on this, so is great to hear about these below, and any others out there..
Of course some mobile streams are ephemeral and some permanent streams are dispersed: like Patrick Perdue's stream which I at least wasn't aware of.
For iphone, it seems the iphone 3GS is the first model to support the koalaSan and audiobus approach; so in not too long there will perhaps be many such machines around which could potientially be re-purposed for live streaming, in a twist on the audio ecology monitoring project announced recently on ars technica http://arbimon.com/arbimon/index.php/home-acoustics
This might have advantages over the pi kits which Gregoire is using http://locusonus.org/w/?page=Proj+Lauvin but also maybe not.
In general there are probably lots of possible approaches for different situations.
A key aim emerging for REVEIL is to encourage participants in the direction of a more permanent installation, via the locus sonus network, so we are building something more than a one-off event.
If it is the case that there is now a proliferation of live audio feeds, maybe we should also be working on a place to present these diverse live materials - a paradoxical live archive? arklive? - where they can gain from association with others.. similar to the way small sites of high biodiversity can benefit from being mapped together with other such sites.. as at aporee for recorded sound
thanks
bw grant
On 18 Jul 2013, at 16:44, Jerome Joy wrote:
De : Dustin Perdue patrick@pdaudio.net Date : 18 juillet 2013 16:40:58 HAEC À : locustream@locusonus.org Objet : Rép : [locustream] REVEIL on the locus network
You can do something similar with KoalaSAN and AudioBus, optionally mixing in the audio source of anything that supports AudioBus. I use BossJock Studio as a front-end processor for live input for compression/limiting from my Tascam IXJ2 before it hits the stream. Also, I have never tried using something like the Zoom H1 with an iPad/camera connection kit, but I can tell you that any of the Olympus recorders I have (LS100, LS14, DM520) won't work. Same for the Zoom H4N I had for a short time. I wasn't impressed at all with it's preamps compared to the original H4. And, of course you can't use any of these devices directly from an iPhone due to Apple's power restrictions, at least without jailbreaking. I even tried a Blue Tiki, which has some processing in-line with two mic capsules (mono, used for noise reduction,) and even that went over the 20MA power range.
I don't have any Android devices at all.
Le 18 juil. 13 à 13:04, udo noll a écrit :
Patrick Perdue:
Isn't there a way to make USB audio input work on Android devices running 4.1 (or is it 4.2) and higher?
yes, host mode is told to work on 4.1. or so, usb audio out too, but havn't found success reports on sound cards, or recorders acting as such (olympus, zoom, etc.) a nice streaming software for androids is "broadcastmyself"... it optionally mixes mic-in with a playlist
udo
but I prefer my Tascam IXJ2 and an Audio Technica AT-822 with iPhone for portable streaming applications. I use an app called KoalaSan on iOS for remote streaming. It supports Ogg Vorbis, Opus and AAC. Opus requires IceCast 2.4.
The stereo image is wider on the AT-822 than the IXY. I don't think any of the current Audio Technica microphones have such a nice image as the AT-822, although some are technically superior in terms of SNR and sensitivity. A real shame.
On 7/18/2013 4:13 AM, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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Thanks, Patrick
Let us know how streaming goes with the iPhone 3Gs if you find them in the corners.. We are happy to host streams under test and development. They don't all have to be top quality audio!
One option we've been talking about lately is refreshing a dedicated locus app called Liveshout which would simplify setting up streams for some users.. will keep you posted on that.
It's useful to know about the limitations of the pre 4G iPhones. I did some tests video streaming with a 3G and the Mikey iMic from Blue microphones - it was the entrance to a beehive - it was quite high impact but not v hi fidelity I think.
I will aim to include these remarks in the faq / recipe book for the emerging REVEIL
bw grant
REVEIL
reveil
self-noise.net
https://soundcloud.com/selfnoise
http://locusonus.org/soundmap/034/
On 21 Jul 2013, at 11:04, Patrick Perdue wrote:
The problem with KoalaSAN in this context is that there is no option for reconnecting the stream after the connection has been dropped for any reason. However, the dev seems to be receptive to ideas, so perhaps that can change in future versions.
I haven't actually tried streaming with a 3GS, though I did try with an iPhone 4, which worked OK so long as you didn't try doing much else. I have a couple of iPhone 3gs's here. Perhaps I will dig them out of whatever corners I've stuffed them in, and see how streaming performance is with all supported codecs. I expect AAC encoding will work best, especially on that hardware, as KoalaSAN is actually using Apple's encoding process. There are still some analog 30-pin audio input devices around for older apple devices, I.E. the 3gs, although I don't have access to any, that will allow for unprocessed stereo audio, though, unlike the iPhone 4 and up, which supports a USB audio profile, you are still subject to the phone's A/D conversion. In this instance, you should be very careful about noise from GSM/3g connections if you want to experiment with such things.
By the way, I agree with all points regarding networking. I had been running my own stream for quite a while before I found this project. Speaking of which, it was down over the weekend due to a power supply failure, and it's back up now.
On 7/20/2013 6:52 AM, grant wrote:
Hello all
This seems like a really interesting and significant discussion, both in terms of the REVEIL project for a 24 hour daybreak broadcast scheduled for next May, and more generally for the directions of live audio feeds..
Compared to when Ragnar Olafsson did the daybreak forever installation a couple of years ago, there seems to be a proliferation of approaches and devices to supplying live audio streams.
I am in the process of collating recipes on this, so is great to hear about these below, and any others out there..
Of course some mobile streams are ephemeral and some permanent streams are dispersed: like Patrick Perdue's stream which I at least wasn't aware of.
For iphone, it seems the iphone 3GS is the first model to support the koalaSan and audiobus approach; so in not too long there will perhaps be many such machines around which could potientially be re-purposed for live streaming, in a twist on the audio ecology monitoring project announced recently on ars technica http://arbimon.com/arbimon/index.php/home-acoustics
This might have advantages over the pi kits which Gregoire is using http://locusonus.org/w/?page=Proj+Lauvin but also maybe not.
In general there are probably lots of possible approaches for different situations.
A key aim emerging for REVEIL is to encourage participants in the direction of a more permanent installation, via the locus sonus network, so we are building something more than a one-off event.
If it is the case that there is now a proliferation of live audio feeds, maybe we should also be working on a place to present these diverse live materials - a paradoxical live archive? arklive? - where they can gain from association with others.. similar to the way small sites of high biodiversity can benefit from being mapped together with other such sites.. as at aporee for recorded sound
thanks
bw grant
On 18 Jul 2013, at 16:44, Jerome Joy wrote:
De : Dustin Perdue patrick@pdaudio.net Date : 18 juillet 2013 16:40:58 HAEC À : locustream@locusonus.org Objet : Rép : [locustream] REVEIL on the locus network
You can do something similar with KoalaSAN and AudioBus, optionally mixing in the audio source of anything that supports AudioBus. I use BossJock Studio as a front-end processor for live input for compression/limiting from my Tascam IXJ2 before it hits the stream. Also, I have never tried using something like the Zoom H1 with an iPad/camera connection kit, but I can tell you that any of the Olympus recorders I have (LS100, LS14, DM520) won't work. Same for the Zoom H4N I had for a short time. I wasn't impressed at all with it's preamps compared to the original H4. And, of course you can't use any of these devices directly from an iPhone due to Apple's power restrictions, at least without jailbreaking. I even tried a Blue Tiki, which has some processing in-line with two mic capsules (mono, used for noise reduction,) and even that went over the 20MA power range.
I don't have any Android devices at all.
Le 18 juil. 13 à 13:04, udo noll a écrit :
Patrick Perdue:
Isn't there a way to make USB audio input work on Android devices running 4.1 (or is it 4.2) and higher?
yes, host mode is told to work on 4.1. or so, usb audio out too, but havn't found success reports on sound cards, or recorders acting as such (olympus, zoom, etc.) a nice streaming software for androids is "broadcastmyself"... it optionally mixes mic-in with a playlist
udo
but I prefer my Tascam IXJ2 and an Audio Technica AT-822 with iPhone for portable streaming applications. I use an app called KoalaSan on iOS for remote streaming. It supports Ogg Vorbis, Opus and AAC. Opus requires IceCast 2.4.
The stereo image is wider on the AT-822 than the IXY. I don't think any of the current Audio Technica microphones have such a nice image as the AT-822, although some are technically superior in terms of SNR and sensitivity. A real shame.
On 7/18/2013 4:13 AM, udo noll wrote:
grant: > Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams. > > At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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I don't have a Blue Mikey, but they're going for just about nothing on Ebay these days, since they don't work with anything modern. If I get something reliable going with just the internal mic on a 3GS, I'll perhaps see what happens with another accessory. Neither of the two 3GS's I have here are equipped with activated sim cards, so there will be no noise coming from those radios. I remember the Blue Mikey not being particularly well shielded against GSM, noise, though this will perhaps only be a problem in certain situations anyway.
On 7/22/2013 2:25 PM, Grant Smith wrote:
Thanks, Patrick
Let us know how streaming goes with the iPhone 3Gs if you find them in the corners.. We are happy to host streams under test and development. They don't all have to be top quality audio!
One option we've been talking about lately is refreshing a dedicated locus app called Liveshout which would simplify setting up streams for some users.. will keep you posted on that.
It's useful to know about the limitations of the pre 4G iPhones. I did some tests video streaming with a 3G and the Mikey iMic from Blue microphones - it was the entrance to a beehive - it was quite high impact but not v hi fidelity I think.
I will aim to include these remarks in the faq / recipe book for the emerging REVEIL
bw grant
REVEIL
reveil http://self-noise.net/reveil/reveil_index.html
self-noise.net http://www.self-noise.net/
https://soundcloud.com/selfnoise
http://locusonus.org/soundmap/034/
On 21 Jul 2013, at 11:04, Patrick Perdue wrote:
The problem with KoalaSAN in this context is that there is no option for reconnecting the stream after the connection has been dropped for any reason. However, the dev seems to be receptive to ideas, so perhaps that can change in future versions.
I haven't actually tried streaming with a 3GS, though I did try with an iPhone 4, which worked OK so long as you didn't try doing much else. I have a couple of iPhone 3gs's here. Perhaps I will dig them out of whatever corners I've stuffed them in, and see how streaming performance is with all supported codecs. I expect AAC encoding will work best, especially on that hardware, as KoalaSAN is actually using Apple's encoding process. There are still some analog 30-pin audio input devices around for older apple devices, I.E. the 3gs, although I don't have access to any, that will allow for unprocessed stereo audio, though, unlike the iPhone 4 and up, which supports a USB audio profile, you are still subject to the phone's A/D conversion. In this instance, you should be very careful about noise from GSM/3g connections if you want to experiment with such things.
By the way, I agree with all points regarding networking. I had been running my own stream for quite a while before I found this project. Speaking of which, it was down over the weekend due to a power supply failure, and it's back up now.
On 7/20/2013 6:52 AM, grant wrote:
Hello all
This seems like a really interesting and significant discussion, both in terms of the REVEIL project for a 24 hour daybreak broadcast scheduled for next May, and more generally for the directions of live audio feeds..
Compared to when Ragnar Olafsson did the daybreak forever installation a couple of years ago, there seems to be a proliferation of approaches and devices to supplying live audio streams.
I am in the process of collating recipes on this, so is great to hear about these below, and any others out there..
Of course some mobile streams are ephemeral and some permanent streams are dispersed: like Patrick Perdue's stream which I at least wasn't aware of.
For iphone, it seems the iphone 3GS is the first model to support the koalaSan and audiobus approach; so in not too long there will perhaps be many such machines around which could potientially be re-purposed for live streaming, in a twist on the audio ecology monitoring project announced recently on ars technica http://arbimon.com/arbimon/index.php/home-acoustics
This might have advantages over the pi kits which Gregoire is using http://locusonus.org/w/?page=Proj+Lauvin but also maybe not.
In general there are probably lots of possible approaches for different situations.
A key aim emerging for REVEIL is to encourage participants in the direction of a more permanent installation, via the locus sonus network, so we are building something more than a one-off event.
If it is the case that there is now a proliferation of live audio feeds, maybe we should also be working on a place to present these diverse live materials - a paradoxical live archive? arklive? - where they can gain from association with others.. similar to the way small sites of high biodiversity can benefit from being mapped together with other such sites.. as at aporee for recorded sound
thanks
bw grant
On 18 Jul 2013, at 16:44, Jerome Joy wrote:
De : Dustin Perdue <patrick@pdaudio.net mailto:patrick@pdaudio.net> Date : 18 juillet 2013 16:40:58 HAEC À : locustream@locusonus.org mailto:locustream@locusonus.org Objet : Rép : [locustream] REVEIL on the locus network
You can do something similar with KoalaSAN and AudioBus, optionally mixing in the audio source of anything that supports AudioBus. I use BossJock Studio as a front-end processor for live input for compression/limiting from my Tascam IXJ2 before it hits the stream. Also, I have never tried using something like the Zoom H1 with an iPad/camera connection kit, but I can tell you that any of the Olympus recorders I have (LS100, LS14, DM520) won't work. Same for the Zoom H4N I had for a short time. I wasn't impressed at all with it's preamps compared to the original H4. And, of course you can't use any of these devices directly from an iPhone due to Apple's power restrictions, at least without jailbreaking. I even tried a Blue Tiki, which has some processing in-line with two mic capsules (mono, used for noise reduction,) and even that went over the 20MA power range.
I don't have any Android devices at all.
Le 18 juil. 13 à 13:04, udo noll a écrit :
Patrick Perdue:
Isn't there a way to make USB audio input work on Android devices running 4.1 (or is it 4.2) and higher?
yes, host mode is told to work on 4.1. or so, usb audio out too, but havn't found success reports on sound cards, or recorders acting as such (olympus, zoom, etc.) a nice streaming software for androids is "broadcastmyself"... it optionally mixes mic-in with a playlist
udo
but I prefer my Tascam IXJ2 and an Audio Technica AT-822 with iPhone for portable streaming applications. I use an app called KoalaSan on iOS for remote streaming. It supports Ogg Vorbis, Opus and AAC. Opus requires IceCast 2.4.
The stereo image is wider on the AT-822 than the IXY. I don't think any of the current Audio Technica microphones have such a nice image as the AT-822, although some are technically superior in terms of SNR and sensitivity. A real shame.
On 7/18/2013 4:13 AM, udo noll wrote: > grant: >> Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi >> streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the >> potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the >> Streamboxes for a new generation of streams. >> >> At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people >> started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to >> hear from people interested in that - which could also be >> expanded out to other places > > > hello Grant et al, > > are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? > i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. > there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered > by a solar panel. > > if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy > for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming > in reasonable quality. > > udo > > -- > radio aporee 52° 29' 66" N, 13° 25' 26" E > ::: maps http://aporee.org/maps/ > ::: stream http://radio.aporee.org > ::: miniatures for mobiles http://aporee.org/mfm/ > _______________________________________________ > Locustream / Locus Sonus Streaming Project > http://locusonus.org/ > To unsubscribe, send a message to support@locusonus.org > mailto:support@locusonus.org > http://nujus.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/locustream > _______________________________________________ >
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hi udo and all
on the raspberry pi s :
Gregoire Lauvin is clearly the expert on Pi streaming.
There are some pictures of his streaming pi s here http://locusonus.org/w/?page=Proj+Lauvin
I think he is working on a howto and a disk image for the Pi.
The Icicle soundcard from Blue microphones, which Gregoire is using is quite expensive [€49 form thomann]. I was wondering if anybody has compared the cheaper t.bone usb micplug [€25] or something else.
We are also messing with the pi in parallel and will have an update soon.
I noticed there is something on pi s in the documentation with pd-extended.
bw grant
On 18 Jul 2013, at 09:13, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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Just an update.
Gregoire and I will be working on a new streambox / pi config next week (the current version is essentially designed for use with a 3g network). Hopefully, we will have a new disc image and documentation shortly.
best Peter
Le 20/07/13 12:11, grant a écrit :
hi udo and all
on the raspberry pi s :
Gregoire Lauvin is clearly the expert on Pi streaming.
There are some pictures of his streaming pi s here http://locusonus.org/w/?page=Proj+Lauvin
I think he is working on a howto and a disk image for the Pi.
The Icicle soundcard from Blue microphones, which Gregoire is using is quite expensive [€49 form thomann]. I was wondering if anybody has compared the cheaper t.bone usb micplug [€25] or something else.
We are also messing with the pi in parallel and will have an update soon.
I noticed there is something on pi s in the documentation with pd-extended.
bw grant
On 18 Jul 2013, at 09:13, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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Out of curiosity, what types of microphones are you using with these devices? Generally speaking, I haven't really liked what I've seen from most of these single USB mic preamp boxes, I.E. Icicle, MXL MicMate, and a couple of others that I don't remember now. They're all particularly bad with low output dynamic mics, which I prefer using for my stream because of their ability to handle pretty much anything that's been thrown at them so far. I don't think you could pay me enough money to leave an externally biased electric condenser practically exposed to the elements full time as I have done with my dynamics. Electret condensers, on the other hand, are a bit less likely to die from a bit of water than electrics. There are some dedicated devices, like the CEntrance MicPort Pro, which handles quite well even with lower output mics, but that particular box goes for about $150.
I have been trying to come up with a cheap, compact and reliable way to do high quality fixed location stereo streams. My setup sounds pretty good, wasn't terribly expensive, but has several components, and isn't very unobtrusive, as there is a pair of cardioid dynamic microphones and an ORTF stereo bar involved. I've thought of using something like a pair of Panasonic WM61 capsules and finding a way to mount them on some sort of baffle to shape the sound a bit more accurately than a generic pair of spaced omni-directional microphones, but these unbalanced electret mics create problems with grounded systems, resulting in 50/60 hz hum, system bus noise, etc. This can be eliminated, but usually at a much more significant cost than the sum of the rest of the system. A friend in England has such a configuration, and I used some software processing to notch 50 hz and second/third harmonics out, but that isn't necessarily ideal. He is using a Samsung NC10 netbook with it's onboard sound chip and a pair of Sound Professionals MS-BMC3 microphones, which are both very hot and have quite a nice signal-to-noise ratio. The problem is that the netbook's Realtek chip doesn't have a lot of headroom. It's basically being driven at just above line level with some processing on the other side, and still some loud sounds clip the front-end out pretty significantly. And, of course, there is the grounding issue. There is no way to balance those mics, which requires at least three conductors per mic, preferably five for a stereo pair, when all three conductors are used already. I've looked at trying to find a way to isolate this through transformers, but the mics would need to be powered from another external source to make that work properly.
On 7/20/2013 6:11 AM, grant wrote:
hi udo and all
on the raspberry pi s :
Gregoire Lauvin is clearly the expert on Pi streaming.
There are some pictures of his streaming pi s here http://locusonus.org/w/?page=Proj+Lauvin
I think he is working on a howto and a disk image for the Pi.
The Icicle soundcard from Blue microphones, which Gregoire is using is quite expensive [€49 form thomann]. I was wondering if anybody has compared the cheaper t.bone usb micplug [€25] or something else.
We are also messing with the pi in parallel and will have an update soon.
I noticed there is something on pi s in the documentation with pd-extended.
bw grant
On 18 Jul 2013, at 09:13, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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I think people tend to be using a range of microphones which are basically surplus to requirements.
I have also been wondering: we are planning workshops to design and build some stream kits as successors to the streamboxes. What would be the right price and quality points for the mics and the preamps.
I dont know if between us we could propose, say, 3 sets of equipment at different prices point that would balance and work?
bw grant
On 21 Jul 2013, at 11:27, Patrick Perdue wrote:
Out of curiosity, what types of microphones are you using with these devices? Generally speaking, I haven't really liked what I've seen from most of these single USB mic preamp boxes, I.E. Icicle, MXL MicMate, and a couple of others that I don't remember now. They're all particularly bad with low output dynamic mics, which I prefer using for my stream because of their ability to handle pretty much anything that's been thrown at them so far. I don't think you could pay me enough money to leave an externally biased electric condenser practically exposed to the elements full time as I have done with my dynamics. Electret condensers, on the other hand, are a bit less likely to die from a bit of water than electrics. There are some dedicated devices, like the CEntrance MicPort Pro, which handles quite well even with lower output mics, but that particular box goes for about $150.
Yes, I noticed this one being recommended but haven't used it.
I have been trying to come up with a cheap, compact and reliable way to do high quality fixed location stereo streams. My setup sounds pretty good, wasn't terribly expensive, but has several components, and isn't very unobtrusive, as there is a pair of cardioid dynamic microphones and an ORTF stereo bar involved. I've thought of using something like a pair of Panasonic WM61 capsules and finding a way to mount them on some sort of baffle to shape the sound a bit more accurately than a generic pair of spaced omni-directional microphones, but these unbalanced electret mics create problems with grounded systems, resulting in 50/60 hz hum, system bus noise, etc. This can be eliminated, but usually at a much more significant cost than the sum of the rest of the system. A friend in England has such a configuration, and I used some software processing to notch 50 hz and second/third harmonics out, but that isn't necessarily ideal. He is using a Samsung NC10 netbook with it's onboard sound chip and a pair of Sound Professionals MS-BMC3 microphones, which are both very hot and have quite a nice signal-to-noise ratio.
My stream currently uses some old sound professionals stereo omnis via a minidisk recorder to an ibook over ethernet. Typical bricolage really
The problem is that the netbook's Realtek chip doesn't have a lot of headroom. It's basically being driven at just above line level with some processing on the other side, and still some loud sounds clip the front-end out pretty significantly. And, of course, there is the grounding issue. There is no way to balance those mics, which requires at least three conductors per mic, preferably five for a stereo pair, when all three conductors are used already. I've looked at trying to find a way to isolate this through transformers, but the mics would need to be powered from another external source to make that work properly.
On 7/20/2013 6:11 AM, grant wrote:
hi udo and all
on the raspberry pi s :
Gregoire Lauvin is clearly the expert on Pi streaming.
There are some pictures of his streaming pi s here http://locusonus.org/w/?page=Proj+Lauvin
I think he is working on a howto and a disk image for the Pi.
The Icicle soundcard from Blue microphones, which Gregoire is using is quite expensive [€49 form thomann]. I was wondering if anybody has compared the cheaper t.bone usb micplug [€25] or something else.
We are also messing with the pi in parallel and will have an update soon.
I noticed there is something on pi s in the documentation with pd-extended.
bw grant
On 18 Jul 2013, at 09:13, udo noll wrote:
grant:
Some of those are likely to be resolved by the new Raspberry Pi streamers which Gregoire has up and working. They have the potential to be an affordable reliable successor to the Streamboxes for a new generation of streams.
At CRISAP in London we are planning a workshop to get people started building Raspberry Pi streamkits. It would be good to hear from people interested in that - which could also be expanded out to other places
hello Grant et al,
are there any howtos etc. on building a streamer with rasPIs? i know that it's not so difficult, but it would save some time. there was some discussion on running liquidsoap on a PI powered by a solar panel.
if only android phones would support external mics like the rode ixy for the ifon, that would be a perfect solution for ad hoc streaming in reasonable quality.
udo
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